Muslim Massacre

Hey Sigvatr I like it! I thought it was going to make me feel a lot more uncomfortable but it didn’t.

Gameplay-wise:
Nice shooter, solid animation and explosion effects. Levels are exactly the right length, good feeling of progression etc. etc.

You’re right about using the themes to make good gameplay. There is a good mob feeling, and the suicide bombers play really well. They make me panic and laugh at the same time.

I was pleased to find that the “joke” of it was almost understated. Nice intro. In many ways the game is taking the piss out of videogames as much as xenophobia, particularly those from the 90s.

Worth playing.

Most of us already played “muslim massacre” back when it was called “Call of Duty 4” and there was no controversy then.

See what truth in advertising will get you, Sigvatr?

Lots of attention, which is probably what you were trying for.

But also, lots of critics who would have been silent if you called your game “Special Forces: Anti-Terrorism Campaign 4” or something like that.

“Meaning can exist independent of the creator’s intent.”

So can a lack of “meaning”.

“Meaning” can also be perceived where there is none; considering what a giant boner humanity has for ascribing “meaning” to everything in sight, such is usually the case.

The funny thing is I’ve actually seen far worse in terms of controversy on the internet… Like Saddam’s henchmen killing people with hand grenades for fun, recording it, laughing about it and so on. Really sick stuff. This game is nothing compared to that and I think as a satire it’s quite good actually.

I really don’t even see why I or a Muslim or an American (or an American Muslim :p ) should get offended about this game. Everybody who gets offended by this game, clearly doesn’t understand satire and is far too easily offended by ideas, pixels and fake blood.

*“Meaning can exist independent of the creator’s intent.”

So can a lack of “meaning”.*

That sir, is your opinion, but not the truth. If something has meaning for at least one person, it’s enough for that something to actually have meaning. Everything else is subjective.

*“Meaning” can also be perceived where there is none; considering what a giant boner humanity has for ascribing “meaning” to everything in sight, such is usually the case.*

You may not agree with the meaning, but that doesn’t mean it has none. :p

Heh. I think what Sigvatr tried to do is to hit the beehive with a baseball bat and see what happens. From the looks of it, that’s excatly Sigvatr’s style: provocative and offensive. I do not actually like this style, but I admit that it does somehow have artistic merit. However, I think that he does sometimes go too far and stops being artistic to become an asshole.

I went out to play the game and I find it surprising that I actually enjoyed myself a bit. I went about to Round 7.

Personally, I see allot of disturbing irony here and a bit of commentary.

The bit with George Bush’ speech especially. Ironic, because he calls a war upon another holy war and disturbing because, some of the Islamic world is indeed fucked up.

Not purely because of Islam, but because of the medieval mentality that is dominant there. Whether theists like this or not, Islam does take place in this and upholds this mentality, like any medieval religion (not that I think Islam is any worse then other religions). To be fair, almost all religions have such periods in history and Islam is a bit younger then other “mainstream” religions.

But going back to the game, I would wager that it falls into the “its so bad that its good” category. There is nothing overly special in the game: there isn’t much of a story and the gameplay is only fairly repetitive. The only thing that makes it stand out that it takes the worst of conservative smear and propaganda, then tries visualise it. It’s not a bad idea, to be fair but I think it needs more. As it stands, its more of a mockery and an experiment then truly an attempt at satire.

What I also find ironic is that you are sent to kill evil people that supposedly kill innocent men, women and children. By dropping you in the middle of a random third world place and… kill anything that moves. In the very fist level, you go out and kill unarmed men and women.

The thing I recommend everyone is to stop, take their initial impressions and try to look at the game with an emotional step back.

Sigvatr: “what I was intending for the game ”

Pseudo retro graphics + easily controversial subject matter + adequately appealing gameplay = indie game blog coverage?

I can’t believe nobody commented on the main guy’s hair yet.

“indie game blog coverage?”

If I wanted to do that why wouldn’t I just make a shooter with 8000 projectiles and flashing lights? That’s a guaranteed indie game success.

Are the suicide bombers a reference to Serious Sam?

The internet scandal isn’t really anything to write home about – we can all take a bit of a laugh here in our tiny crap little indie game player community. However Sigvatr might want to be worried if the game reaches the coverage of the mainstream media, because then he’ll find a fatwa on his ass and that’s a bit less amusing, given that the extreme kinds of people he’s ridiculing actually DO kill people if they are insulted by them. And then a little joke at the expense of a few nutters isn’t so funny any more.

I would’ve preferred a game with 8000 projectiles. For one it’d at least feel like the enemy were really giving as good as they’re getting. Also, replay value would be nice.

Of course I have Diadra Empty for that so screw it.

I can only stand back and laugh…

PS: How many of you have actually managed to kill Muhammed? Don’t bother criticizing the game until you get at least that far.

“”Sigvatr might want to be worried if the game reaches the coverage of the mainstream media, because then he’ll find a fatwa on his ass and that’s a bit less amusing, given that the extreme kinds of people he’s ridiculing actually DO kill people if they are insulted by them.”

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too. You don’t want to mess around with these guys.”

What are you talking about. This is a game. It’s art. It’s supposed to be provocative. I don’t think every Muslim is going to check the coordinates of Sigvatr’s on the (Muslim equivalent of!) Google Earth to kill him.

Muslims are people too, you know.

I like that Sigvatr actually didn’t provide any other clues about what you’re doing in the game – you’re just killing enemies. Maybe they’re zombies or robot ninjas that are disguised as Muslims, who knows? Maybe he does. But nobody cares.

Yeah, but if enough of them have a problem with a cartoon that is nowhere near as edgy this stuff..

Oh my god, just stop trying to see some socio-critical aspect in ANYTHING Sigvatr makes.
He is a dumb fuck trying to get attention by doing exactely what any reasonable human wouldn’t just for the sake of shocking people. This is no offense by the way, Sigvatr probably is jerking off to what I am writing because he wants to read stuff like that I guess. See electric retard, his ‘games’ (insult to any game ever made), his ‘funny’ web page listing the most successful killing sprees in a sport event like presentation and so on.
He is a stupid kid captured in a grown up’s body with Internet. As worse as it can get. Oh and don’t tell me electric retard is satire because BOY you’d have to be brain-damaged to be able to deal with such disturbing crap the long time the page exists. Oh and watch the forums. Oh and notice the site was banned in Germany because of its content. Oh and don’t watch the forums if you don’t want Hitler and a bunch of sickos all over your face. End of message.

Religious fanatics tend not to make games, they tend to act out their fantasies.

“Oh and notice the site was banned in Germany because of its content.”

Yeah. They also ban every second M-rated game like Gears of War (well okay I don’t like it anyway).

But they also banned Duke Nukem 3D and Doom. And both games will be on XBLA. Would you ban DN3D? I think not! *sniff*

@Hooker with a BeViS
Glad someone remembers. I can’t find ANY reference to Saddam Hussein’s Kinder on the net and was beginning to wonder if I only hallucinated it.

MEANING MEANING MEANING MEANING BLAH BLAH MEANING MEANING.

The game is fun. I don’t care if I’m killing Muslims, zombies, or robots; I’m being entertained by little pixel people running around and getting raped through superior firepower.

“You in america? Go call a black guy black, don’t use a name or anything just say black guy. It will be fun I promise.”

Usually blacks prefer being called black to African American or any other word. Of course you’d probably get a bad reaction if you just randomly call a stranger “black guy!” on the street, but you’d probably get that exact same reaction if someone (non-white) called a white person “white guy!” on the street.

Cas

You clearly never heard of Wisdom Tree.

The Joys of Christianity :)

I like the game and all but if this is his idea of ‘satire’, then he just sucks at it big time.

Or it’s just that after so many people bashed him for his original comment on how he wasn’t really aiming for satire (on SA forums) he decided to play the “it’s the type of satire you won’t understand” card to not look like a muslim hater.

Anyways, I don’t care if he hates them or not, game is still fun but the author is kind of a pussy if he tries to hide his feelings behind the big ‘satire’ tree (like all indie developers looking for a offensive game as a golden ticket to instant stardom).

Nice game, while I don’t mind a game will have a political message.
I find the message of the game to be quite populist.
Among many circles it is very popular to portray muslims as victims. And this game is no different.
I have a suggestion for the next game, though.
You can do a game about a real massacare, like the one in darfur.
I think the darfur genocide is commited BY muslims, so I am not sure if you will like to do such a game.
I think this kind of game will try to bring into the spotlight a conflict(one sided slaugther) that many, including the media, the UN, and most of the world, don’t care about or like to ignore.
Eventhough I heard in this “conflict” 400,000 people have already been murdered.
But to tell you the truth, I don’t know much about this conflict, because I barely catch any news about it in the media.
Just my one rusty penny to contribute.