A Message to TIGS from Teh Internets

Eclipse: I think he actually meant the TIGSource frontpage comments, not the forums, even though he said “TIGSource fourms”. You don’t see as much negativity in the forums because people have to actually have names and accounts and emails and can be held accountable for what they say there.

Edmund’s stance does appear to be a little more hardline than Paul’s.

Well, here are the flaws of your video, eddmund.
While you try to portray some indie gamers that comment bad comments on indie games.
You are actually portraying yourself with this video.
Because this video is exactly like a mean comment about a game.
Only its you making a mean comment about gamers.
So think of the gamer as a game, if that helps. You are criticising the people who play the games?
Ok, thats your right to do so(although, I don’t like the idea of making fun of people).
But you are no better than them, you are even worse. Because instead of making a few lines in a comment, you make a whole “video comment”.

Its the internet-s- fools, gets it rights.., great video,. but it sucks! and cost too much, and was not fun,. and your such a premadona video developer who gets all the attention and you don’t deserve it,. because you suck,. loved the video though. I could make a better one,. but I am too important.

Always feed the trolls, as with out trolls what fun are the internets..,

Where’s Cactus in whole that story?

Paul Eres,
I am sure edmund had the intetion of insulting people, and not make them think “Hmm, maybe my behaviour is not appropriate, I better change my ways”

PLATFORMERS! YOU’RE ALL PLATFORMER MAKERS!

This video suck, The lighting is so awful it makes my eyes bleed, I didn’t even watch half of it.

hehe, fat guys are funny, no matter what they do. hehehe.

“Paul Eres, I am sure edmund had the intetion of insulting people, and not make them think “Hmm, maybe my behaviour is not appropriate, I better change my ways””

Actually it at least worked on me. After watching this video whenever I found myself even thinking about criticizing something I held back and realized it’d be stupid. Maybe this effect will only last a few hours, though.

Hey! I know that guy! I may have occasionally read some of his posts!

Yay, if we’re going to feed the trolls, we might as well do it with video.

*hifive*

I have no idea, really.

What we found with Scarygirl is that people on forums / blog comments were like this – people on Twitter were all “Wow, play this game, it’s awesome”. Strange difference!

INWARD SINGING CHECK IT OUT

I played this game on the internet called spwerer it got 10 out of 10 alot but I can see that its obviously more like 9 out of 10 I mean what the fuck the main guy is a circle anyone can draw a circle I can draw a circle I could do that thats not hard atall you dont deserve recognition for something thats not hard, thats not fair, thats not fair on me and the hard things I do, on the internet.

Any popcorn left, guys?

For people who are still mad because “everyone at TIGSource hates it when you criticize Jon Blow” or whatever: maybe you should note that not every critical post is receiving a lot of angry responses. For example, there’s a big difference between:

Example 1: “I didn’t really get Braid at all: it seemed like there wasn’t much to it. Why did you guys like it?”

and

Example 2: “Braid is a shitty game. In fact, I’m not even sure it is a game. There’s no gameplay at all. You’re stupid for liking it.”

And all right, these are cartoon versions of what I’m talking about, but you get the idea. Example 1 is where we have a conversation: you say something, I say something and then we talk about our things. Example 2 is where you barge in and loudly declare that everyone around you is stupid.

Also note that, in Example 1, you are asking a question. You are showing concern for what other people think. This is a good indicator to people that you are interested in actually talking about the topic, and not just declaring your opinion.

In an actual conversation, people can even disagree with your opinions, and that’s okay. If you pull an Example 2, and people tell you that you are not being constructive, the worst possible response is, “You just hate it when anyone says anything bad about anything. You’re trying to restrict my freedom of speech.” Honestly, I don’t know what that is. Trolling? Total obliviousness to a social situation?

Look, it isn’t hard to put some care into how you say things, and to try to engage people on the internet like there are actual people on the other end. Tons of people manage to do this every day, and I don’t think it’s beyond anyone here. I can’t believe I’m even having to say this, but just don’t be a dick. It isn’t actually particularly difficult.

I ACTIVATED it, Mr. Whitman!

Now you look silly, ho ho ho.

Is this about Spewer? I mean look. That whole thing was people overreacting to something that easily could have been ignored in the first place.

Yeah, some comments on here don’t elaborate too much or can’t be considered detailed arguments. The thing is though, a comments section is not a review section. A comments section implies just that; “comments.”

Kind of like if someone asks you to comment on the shirt they’re wearing.

If someone asked you “what do you think about my new shirt?” Would you give them a long detailed review about it? I don’t think so.

Crap, this site is really messing up for me for some reason. It’s loading very slowly and my posts aren’t showing up the first time I post them.

“If someone asked you “what do you think about my new shirt?” Would you give them a long detailed review about it? I don’t think so.”

The thing is, a game or a developer isn’t like a shirt. If you say “your shirt is ugly” you aren’t likely to hurt someone’s feelings because they aren’t their shirt and they didn’t make their shirt. But if they actually *did* make their shirt (designed it) and you tell them it’s ugly they’re liable to be offended, just as if you tell them their face is ugly they’re liable to be offended.

Ok, seriously? This shit needs to stop.

I agree with going back to talking about games rather than talking about talking about games. Like judgespear said, this all started because Edmund and his cronies acted like big crybabies and threw a tantrum when not everyone was writing a doctoral thesis on the positives and negatives of his oh so glorious game about throwing up and then consuming said vomit.

They’re called “comments” for a reason.

There will always be people that will hate absolutely everything you do. This isn’t exclusive to the Internet. The best thing a person can do is ignore the unhelpful comments because feeding trolls will only cause migraines.

If your feelings are hurt by things people say on the internet, then you really need to step back and see what you’re doing wrong or learn to ignore those comments.

And don’t get me wrong, but I’m all for detailed arguments and the like but do they really belong in the comments section? If anything, talk about that kind of stuff on the forums, don’t try to force it in the comments section. I mean, look at what happens when you try to get someone here to elaborate on their little one liner sentence about the fact that the game didn’t load for them or they didn’t enjoy it? It turns into a meaningless discussion over nothing.

This made my life. I need to buy Edmund a pony.